5e Casting Continual Flame for Free

2020-08-24,02:38 PM (ISO 8601)

I've got a not all all stealthy V-Human Sword and Board Paladin going into the Dungeon of the Mad Mage. Since he won't have goggle of the night, I am going to have someone cast continual flame on it. What should I have it cast on? My Magical Warhammer, so it can be sheathed? Something else?

2020-08-24,02:41 PM (ISO 8601)

Bullseye Lantern? It should never run out of fuel and you can close it and focus the light if you need to illuminate a specific spot/location.

2020-08-24,02:47 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by king_steve View Post

Bullseye Lantern? It should never run out of fuel and you can close it and focus the light if you need to illuminate a specific spot/location.

That works really well when I have a free hand. The issue comes up when I am in combat and have a shield in one hand and my magical warhammer in the other.

2020-08-24,02:48 PM (ISO 8601)

Weapons that can be sheathed are a good option. A medallion on a necklace works well too. You can have it either out giving light or instead put it under your tunic.

Edit: There is no reason you can't hang the lantern from your belt or pack, especially as it can't leak or burn you.

2020-08-24,02:51 PM (ISO 8601)

Skull mask, so you can cosplay as Ghost Rider.

Seriously, though, the best thing to use is something that leaves your hands free, or that you would be holding anyway. A weapon you're holding at the ready is a good candidate, but you will want the ability to easily douse it. Does a warhammer have a sheathe, as a sword would? If so, that's good, but I've never pictured a sheathe for a warhammer. The shield is great too, but harder to douse the flame, unless you have a cloth or drape of some kind you can throw over it when you don't want a flaming shield.

If you go with the bullseye lantern (which is another great choice), consider casting it on something small which can be set inside the lantern, rather than the lantern itself. I've gotten into...discussions...where it's argued that the lantern itself is glowing/flaming, so closing the shutter has no impact. If you've cast it on a pebble, which you mount inside the lantern as "fuel" there's no ambiguity.

*edit* Oh, I almost forgot my favorite example! The guy who had it cast on his glass eye. flaming eyeball to impress the rubes when necessary, an eyepatch (or just squint) when darkness was required.

2020-08-24,02:53 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Monster Manuel View Post

If you go with the bullseye lantern (which is another great choice), consider casting it on something small which can be set inside the lantern, rather than the lantern itself. I've gotten into...discussions...where it's argued that the lantern itself is glowing/flaming, so closing the shutter has no impact. If you've cast it on a pebble, which you mount inside the lantern as "fuel" there's no ambiguity.

That is a good point. Our group has always figured we were casting it on the wick, so it works like a regular lamp.

2020-08-24,02:59 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Mellack View Post

That is a good point. Our group has always figured we were casting it on the wick, so it works like a regular lamp.

Yeah, the point of contention comes from the wording of the spell, which affects "an object". It doesn't specifically say you can target part of an object, just the object. I personally rule it that it's lame to have to come up with work-arounds like the pebble-in-the-lantern and it's cooler if you can cast it on the blade of a sword, or the wick of a lantern, or the interior of a cape, but there's some merit to the argument.

2020-08-24,03:01 PM (ISO 8601)

The Paladin has an amulet to Helm that he wear on his chest all the time (plus a holy symbol emblazoned on his shield). A flaming Holy Symbol to Helm is a pretty sweet plan.

2020-08-24,03:03 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Monster Manuel View Post

Yeah, the point of contention comes from the wording of the spell, which affects "an object". It doesn't specifically say you can target part of an object, just the object. I personally rule it that it's lame to have to come up with work-arounds like the pebble-in-the-lantern and it's cooler if you can cast it on the blade of a sword, or the wick of a lantern, or the interior of a cape, but there's some merit to the argument.

Well at least the sword and lamp are fairly easy: disassemble them for the spell. I can see more of an issue for just one side of an object. In your cloak example, I would suggest having a lining made that you cast on then sew in.

2020-08-24,03:10 PM (ISO 8601)

The paladin. You'll have to kill him first, then cast Continual Flame while he's dead and counts as object before Revivify-ing him. That will leave an impression.

2020-08-24,03:14 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Monster Manuel View Post

Skull mask, so you can cosplay as Ghost Rider.

I have cast it upon:
1. A Helm or a bandana. (for our human barbarian)

2. A staff. As part of a memorial for a dead NPC whose family we were helping out

3. On a club. I also cast Shillelagh on it with some frequency. vHuman Cleric, with Magic Initiate, Druid. Getting to 3rd level allowed me to get that spell one day while we were in town between adventures. Best 50 GP ruby I'd spent to date. I liked having a "magic club" in my possession, and with my chain mail, I wasn't gonna be stealty any time soon, so why not bring the glowing wrath of my deity down upon evil doers, eh?

2020-08-24,03:56 PM (ISO 8601)

Paladin of the Ancients is supposed to be a light unto the world, so I cast it on my shield.

2020-08-24,04:19 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyTiger View Post

Paladin of the Ancients is supposed to be a light unto the world, so I cast it on my shield.

Careful with the wording there. DMs will think you're holding a bright lantern in front of your face when you go to block. Make sure it's the front of the shield only that glows.

2020-08-24,04:46 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Kyutaru View Post

Careful with the wording there. DMs will think you're holding a bright lantern in front of your face when you go to block. Make sure it's the front of the shield only that glows.

I suppose, no DM has given me trouble... the rogue hates Quix, but Quix despises the rogue already.

2020-08-24,04:59 PM (ISO 8601)

My bard has it on a set of brass knuckles. Because seriously, flaming fist? Badass.

2020-08-24,05:30 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post

I've got a not all all stealthy V-Human Sword and Board Paladin going into the Dungeon of the Mad Mage. Since he won't have goggle of the night, I am going to have someone cast continual flame on it. What should I have it cast on? My Magical Warhammer, so it can be sheathed? Something else?

Something you can cover/uncover as an object interaction (or even less) and doesn't require your hand. For example, wearing an eyepatch over your fake eye, which you can then uncover and it sheds light.

Make sure to upcast the Continual Flame to level 3+ when you make it, so that it illuminates Magical Darkness.

2020-08-24,05:31 PM (ISO 8601)

A spent Ioun Stone is a classic from 3.5, you could get a bunch to make a kind of halo effect.

Something held by your familiar if your familiar flies, like the Parrot from donkey kong.

Your teeth so you have a shining smile that light's up the dungeon.

2020-08-24,07:50 PM (ISO 8601)

My wizard has a familiar with a pair of fake eyeglass frames fused to his head to take the light cantrip.

For your paladin I would go with the Harry Dresden route of a necklace you can put beneath you breastplate if you need to not attract every moth in the dungeon.

2020-08-24,07:57 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Falconcry View Post

My wizard has a familiar with a pair of fake eyeglass frames fused to his head to take the light cantrip.

For your paladin I would go with the Harry Dresden route of a necklace you can put beneath you breastplate if you need to not attract every moth in the dungeon.

Bah, breastplate? You think he has the dex to be effective with a breastplate ;) but your point is absolutely still valid.

2020-08-24,10:05 PM (ISO 8601)

The codpiece on your plate armor.

2020-08-24,10:18 PM (ISO 8601)

Rope or string is a strange but very utilitarian option.

2020-08-24,10:34 PM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Monster Manuel View Post

Skull mask, so you can cosplay as Ghost Rider.
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*edit* Oh, I almost forgot my favorite example! The guy who had it cast on his glass eye. flaming eyeball to impress the rubes when necessary, an eyepatch (or just squint) when darkness was required.

That is certainly worthy of being a favorite example

2020-08-24,10:35 PM (ISO 8601)

a medallion or pendant, can be turned off by simply tucking it under your shirt.

either that, or a ring. small, easily carried, leaves both hands free and turning it off is simple as putting in your pocket, or putting on a glove. bracelet could also work, if you have long sleeves.

a headband or bandana could work, extra points for being a head light.

generally anything that can be easily taken on and off, small and doesn't take up a hand slot is ideal.

2020-08-24,10:56 PM (ISO 8601)

Get yourself a custom made helmet in order to have Continual Flame cast on it. Not only will you have a permanent headlamp, but just picture yourself. You get to wear this awesome pronged helmet, and the prongs are ON FIRE as you charge into the enemy. Practical, intimidating, awesome.

2020-08-25,12:44 AM (ISO 8601)

A golden tooth. Grin wide for light, helps your dentist see.

Or just cast it on something like a mouth guard for the same mechanical effect. Like the kind you see in football (USA)/soccer (else).

2020-08-25,06:37 AM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post

a medallion or pendant, can be turned off by simply tucking it under your shirt.

either that, or a ring. small, easily carried, leaves both hands free and turning it off is simple as putting in your pocket, or putting on a glove. bracelet could also work, if you have long sleeves.

a headband or bandana could work, extra points for being a head light.

generally anything that can be easily taken on and off, small and doesn't take up a hand slot is ideal.

This - my usual suggestion would probably be a bead on a necklace or braclet which you can tuck in and out of your armour.

Someone in my party had it cast on their weapon because it looked badass but on more than one occasion that has caused problems where they didn't want to be illuminated but wanted to use the weapon.

Another point - make sure someone else in the party is also carrying a light source around. You have both hands full, casters often do not and can afford to carry around a torch without worry even if they're not the one lacking darkvision.

2020-08-25,06:41 AM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by Contrast View Post

This - my usual suggestion would probably be a bead on a necklace or braclet which you can tuck in and out of your armour.

Someone in my party had it cast on their weapon because it looked badass but on more than one occasion that has caused problems where they didn't want to be illuminated but wanted to use the weapon.

Another point - make sure someone else in the party is also carrying a light source around. You have both hands full, casters often do not and can afford to carry around a torch without worry even if they're not the one lacking darkvision.

The party consists of an Elf Monk (darkvision), Deep Gnome Cleric/Wizard (Superior Darkvision and the light spell), Human Mastermind Rogue, and Human Oath of Glory Paladin. The Cleric/Wizard has the light spell already and the Rogue picked up a lantern of revealing. So, this wouldn't be the only light source available. I just don't want to depend on others for light when my PC can provide it for himself.

2020-08-25,09:36 AM (ISO 8601)

Quote Originally Posted by AttilatheYeon View Post

The codpiece on your plate armor.

*cackle*

Quote Originally Posted by Naanomi View Post

A dull grey Ioun Stone

Nice choice.

2020-08-25,09:42 AM (ISO 8601)

Your boot. It'll shed light in the radius without putting the light source right in your face.

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